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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641541" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641541">(Feb 28 2019 at 18:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hello <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1095">@WG-compiler-meta</span>! Time for weekly meeting. =)</p>
<p>So, we had a little <a href="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/pre-meeting.202019.2E02.2E28" title="#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler.2Fwg-meta/topic/pre-meeting.202019.2E02.2E28">pre-meeting discussion</a> already.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641622" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641622">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> You mentioned doing a bit of prep work, so maybe you want to post some stuff in here?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641636">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>I actually didn't find time to write my thoughts down before this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641657">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>You'll just need to hear them half-baked and on-the-fly I'm afraid.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641708">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking also bit about some of the things <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> mentioned</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641722">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>but couldn't reach very far :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641738" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641738">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh man I just realized I've not even found time to eat lunch and it's 14:00 here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641742" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641742">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>So yeah I've been busy too :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641748" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641748">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641765">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I had lunch around 3.20pm ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641805" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641805">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>that said, I think we don't necessarily have to have a long meeting right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641836" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641836">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was building a list of expert map</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641847" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641847">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>In the other thread, I post this as a vague "roadmap" of things we should be working on</p>
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<li>[x] Create compiler-team template</li>
<li>[ ] Create templates for the initial round of working groups -- in progress, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> has been doing great supportive work here</li>
<li>[ ] Identify a set of "procedures" to describe</li>
<li>[ ] Create "expert map" for the compiler and populate it -- <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> is working on it</li>
<li>[ ] Create a "journeyperson" role and populate it with some initial folks (we wouldn't decide who those people are, that's probably a team decision, but I can get it started) -- <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> can take this</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641850" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641850">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>and thinking about journeyperson mainly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641851" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641851">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, awesome!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641854" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641854">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>As long as we come up with some things we want to work out before next week and work out who is handling what then I think we'll be fine.</p>



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<p>Exactly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641874">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641923">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I updated the list above a bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641928">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also have some thoughts regarding the journeyperson stuff. I think it would be beneficial to clarify what we want to solve with it. Otherwise, I can spend some time this week writing up some of the policy stuff that was discussed at All Hands (third party crates, etc.) and any other ideas we have.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641977">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>cool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641980" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641980">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641989">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking that I would be game to start <strong>making</strong> such a list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159641996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159641996">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is, people who might be on it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642000">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd like to "shop it around" a bit to compiler team also</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642003" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642003">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>is there some places where I should look to know all the areas of the compiler and who is more or less around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642017">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I definitely like the idea of <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> of brainstorming some about what the list <strong>means</strong> :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642023" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642023">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean, do you have any tip on that for where to look for</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642069">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking a few things:</p>
<ul>
<li>First, r+ rights.</li>
<li>Second, a list to draw upon when looking for someone to help out with projects -- perhaps something a bit more <em>active</em> here, too</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642083" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642083">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
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<p>But I definitely like the idea of <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116107">davidtwco</span> of brainstorming some about what the list <strong>means</strong> <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>
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<p>Yeah, I think it would be useful to understand what problems we're trying to solve from a compiler-team member perspective - how it affects them - and from a journeyperson perspective - how it affects those people.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642108" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642108">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
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<p>I mean, do you have any tip on that for where to look for</p>
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<p>honestly I'm not sure, I think maybe starting to make a list in a dropbox paper and posting the link in <a class="stream" data-stream-id="131828" href="/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler">#t-compiler</a> would be agood start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642112" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642112">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>ask people to sign themselves up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642119">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>or create areas that are missing :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642172" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642172">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642182" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642182">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>(or maybe use hackmd vs paper)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642226" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642226">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Regarding the problems a journeyperson thing might solve <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span>, I see a few things:</p>
<ul>
<li>Help to grow the team by ensuring that we engage people who've started to get active in rustc </li>
<li>Provide a source of people who can help implement things without needing as much mentoring</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642295">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>is more or less in the lines of what I was thinking</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642306" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642306">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>The only other thoughts regarding journeyperson stuff I had was surrounding criteria and the ettiquette around it (e.g. if I were a journeyperson I'd want to make sure I don't misrepresent what that means).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642355" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642355">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was also wondering, should a journeyperson help others that are starting to get their way around the compiler?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642611" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642611">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>The only other thoughts regarding journeyperson stuff I had was surrounding criteria and the ettiquette around it (e.g. if I were a journeyperson I'd want to make sure I don't misrepresent what that means).</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Part of this [the ettiquette], to the extent that they care about it, is what the compiler team are comfortable with.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642646">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, so, I think it's a good opportunity for us to kind of describe the expectations</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642689">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, that reminds me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642707" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642707">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that journeypeople might also be a time when you  (hopefully) start doing reviews and things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642718">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure <em>exactly</em> what "and things" might mean</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642731">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>But basically I think I would like it to mean more than "you know things about compiler"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642743">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>but also "you are willing to commit some time to helping things run"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642756" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642756">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>The same should probably be true for compiler team members :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642771" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642771">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, that sounds fine from my point of view</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642775" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642775">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Like compiler team, I would also imaine it's the sort of thing you can readily step into an alumni role)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642789" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642789">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>This all feels like a good set of questions to bring to a steering meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642796" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642796">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Or other forum for wider discussion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642846">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>one of the questions may be, what's the difference between journeypeople and full member?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642853" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642853">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe there is more room for us to get tighter -- especially around how to structure the "expectations"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642865">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>This all feels like a good set of questions to bring to a steering meeting</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Perhaps that can be what we want to achieve for the week w/r/t journeypeople? Work out what those questions are.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642901" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642901">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>My assumption would be something like:</p>
<ul>
<li>full members know &gt;1 area </li>
<li>or full members know enough to independently lead a WG in some area</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642938" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642938">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, exactly, seems reasonable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642948">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Perhaps that can be what we want to achieve for the week w/r/t journeypeople? Work out what those questions are.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes. It feels lke something that somebody could <em>drive</em> but which is also a conversation we'll be having</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642958">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e., somebody tries to write up what we said so far</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159642968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159642968">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe that sparks a few ideas, we refine, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643067" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643067">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can write something down</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643076" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643076">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>so let me see if I got it correctly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643157" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643157">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>One mechanism I thought would work well for journeypeople, inspired by Python's practices, would be to have compiler team members propose new journeypeople, and then have that proposer mentor them in the things that a journeyperson role would bring (reviews, bors, other responsibilities, etc) and then another compiler team member signs off on it to make it official.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643162">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>we want to bring ideas and questions about what is a journeyperson, and what it should do?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643234" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643234">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Particularly that there's a designated person to help someone with the new responsibilities - only if we feel that would be necessary though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643257" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643257">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>One mechanism I thought would work well for journeypeople, inspired by Python's practices, would be to have compiler team members propose new journeypeople, and then have that proposer mentor them in the things that a journeyperson role would bring (reviews, bors, other responsibilities, etc) and then another compiler team member signs off on it to make it official.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>seems like a good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643324" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643324">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I really lke this idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643328" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643328">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Though, I'm cautious that I don't propose anything too wild like that without the compiler team proper feeling it is appropriate.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643333">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also like that full team members then have a "responsibility" of their own</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643351">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643352">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>well we'll see what others think :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643353">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>The mechanism for journeyperson to full member could work similarly.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643357">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643378" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643378">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>my sense is that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643380" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643380">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>the idae is very good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643426" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643426">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>But</em> we should try to be specific</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643441" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643441">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>how does the full member incorporation decision actually work?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643443">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it doesn't have to be like a "ton" of work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643449" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643449">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that having a member nominate someone else resolves questions regarding membership criteria (if there were any).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643475" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643475">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>how does the full member incorporation decision actually work?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>presently someone nominates over e-mail and we discuss, but the criteria are not especially well defined</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643480" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643480">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643503">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems good that someone proposes people</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643516" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643516">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>at the same time some basic criteria seems like something desirable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643528" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643528">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>presently someone nominates over e-mail and we discuss, but the criteria are not especially well defined</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Ah, I didn't know that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643616">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I basically try to keep my eye out for people who've been playing a leadership role, helping to "take over" some part of the compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643646" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643646">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am enthused about (a) making this a bit more formal and (b) helping encourage and support people in doing that more than we do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643839" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643839">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, it seems like we should basically try to go over this conversation and 'condense' it -- we <em>mostly</em> talked about role of journeypeople, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643878">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>In other words, somebody could produce a summary of this meeting and upload to compiler-team repo, and also sort of at the same time they are producing a "draft" of journeypeople questions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643979">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I can do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643986">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sounds great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643994">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Actually that reminds me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159643996" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159643996">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are there policies other than <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Topic-Organizational-Planning--AYeN9KX9eAlKEA4Q9ickKGQBAg-f2C6R3Qic5WSDfEORTW9I#:uid=973035099384229084096765&amp;h2=Library-policy" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Topic-Organizational-Planning--AYeN9KX9eAlKEA4Q9ickKGQBAg-f2C6R3Qic5WSDfEORTW9I#:uid=973035099384229084096765&amp;h2=Library-policy">this from the All Hands</a> that I could write up into the repo this week?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644000">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Shall I adjust the "time" for this meeting to 30 minutes?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644007">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like 1hr is too long</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644017">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Shall I adjust the "time" for this meeting to 30 minutes?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I don't mind either way.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644035">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Are there policies other than <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Topic-Organizational-Planning--AYeN9KX9eAlKEA4Q9ickKGQBAg-f2C6R3Qic5WSDfEORTW9I#:uid=973035099384229084096765&amp;h2=Library-policy" target="_blank" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Topic-Organizational-Planning--AYeN9KX9eAlKEA4Q9ickKGQBAg-f2C6R3Qic5WSDfEORTW9I#:uid=973035099384229084096765&amp;h2=Library-policy">this from the All Hands</a> that I could write up into the repo this week?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Actually, good point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644058" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644058">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>iirc we spent a lot of time discussing the policy/best-practice around things being mono- vs poly-repo</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644062">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>that'd be a good thing to summarize</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644110">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>similarly, I was thinking that we need a blog post or summary of what happened at the all hands</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644120" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644120">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>it had never occurred to me that this could be, to some extent, delegated :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644141" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644141">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can work on summarizing that discussion into the repo this week.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644145" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644145">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Awesome</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644165" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644165">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll look into the other meetings, maybe their respective leads can work on summaries where appropriate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644188">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did the end-of-day summaries ever get used?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644213" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644213">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>They may have been posted on u.r-l.o and I'd have missed them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159644822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159644822">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I dno't think they usually get used for much</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645014">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>meeting over, I guess? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645030">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>gonna write up a summary of the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645149">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>It looks like that 's us then. Thanks for the meeting.</p>
<p>Task summary:<br>
<span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> to handle the expert's list.<br>
<span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> to handle writing up whatever policies he can think of.<br>
<span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> to work on initial group of journeypeople and then all of us (we should make a shared document for this) to come up with the unresolved questions that we want to pose to the compiler team about journeypeople?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645168" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645168">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep thanks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645178" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645178">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry, I got distracted eating lunch:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645206">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>sorry, I got distracted eating lunch:)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I was eating dinner throughout the meeting, it's an unfortunately timed meeting all round.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645320" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645320">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>It looks like that 's us then. Thanks for the meeting.</p>
<p>Task summary:<br>
<span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> to handle the expert's list.<br>
<span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116107">davidtwco</span> to handle writing up whatever policies he can think of.<br>
<span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> to work on initial group of journeypeople and then all of us (we should make a shared document for this) to come up with the unresolved questions that we want to pose to the compiler team about journeypeople?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>and I write a summary of this meeting, correct? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645325">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, thanks! :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645339" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645339">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I was eating dinner throughout the meeting, it's an unfortunately timed meeting all round.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>we can adjust the timing here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645344">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>sorry but from time to time language barriers make me need to confirm obvious stuff :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645349">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>never hurts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645361" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645361">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>we can adjust the timing here</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Normally it's alright, I just planned poorly today.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645512" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645512">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>To clarify, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span>, are the journeyperson questions for the steering meeting tomorrow or triage next week?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645873">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116107">@davidtwco</span> mm I don't know! I was hoping to post something with possible topics for the steering meetings, and I thought that drilling more into some of those topics might be good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159645881" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159645881">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I've got to get on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159646006" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159646006">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm doing it now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159646405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159646405">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw I realized I don't have the bandwidth to follow this wg :(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159646413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159646413">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>you can remove me from the group here on zulip</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159646611" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159646611">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting%202019.02.28/near/159646623" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185694-t-compiler/wg-meta/topic/meeting.202019.2E02.2E28.html#159646623">(Feb 28 2019 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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